UI - Show max speed sign next to speed camera icon

[ignaciolep]

Hello,

It would be great if OsmAnd could show the max speed sign next to the speed camera icon, reading the speed limit value from the maxspeed tag in the enforcement=maxspeed relation or from the highway=speed_camera node (device).

It could also show a traffic light sign for the enforcement=traffic_signals relation.

I made two mockups:

Thanks!
Ignacio

[pebogufi]

Great Idea !
Peter

[pl71]

👍

[polarbearing]

I see several problems here:

• the allowed speed is already shown in a widget. Arguably it is a bit too small to be observed while driving. However, effectively the speed with the camera symbol is redundant.
• the first mockup uses the same speed symbol in a red circle that OsmAnd uses when I exceed the speed, which is confusing if I am driving below the limit
• we have cameras here in areas with variable speed limit, thus the app would indicate a higher limit than it is allowed when the variable speed is posted lower on the street.
• I am absolutely against warning of traffic light cameras. Exceeding the speed can happen gradually when the driver has more attention to the road than to his instruments. But driving over a red traffic light is a concious decision in full view of the traffic situation, which poses an immediate and deadly hazard on crossing traffic. Such a warning would encourage to drive on red over junctions without a camera.

[ignaciolep]

Perhaps the max allowed speed widget could increase its size during the camera alert. The idea is to quickly identify the speed limit of the camera.

I didn't understand the problem with variable speed limit areas. Shouldn't the speed_camera have the lowest maxspeed limit?

About the traffic light camera alert, of course that nobody wants to encourage illegal driving. Sometimes the camera is a just a trap to collect fines, for example when the yellow light duration time is too short or the light changes and the car stops a few centimeters over the pedestrian crossing.

Think of this alert as if it were a sign in the street announcing the camera:

[polarbearing]

variable speed limit

We have a motorway tunnel which normally is 80 km/h and has cameras. The limit can be reduced to 60 or 40 depending on traffic condition or hazards in the tunnel. When the signs are changed, the camera will flash also when you exceed the temporary lower limit. There is some grace time so only vehicles who have seen the lower limit when entering the tunnel are flashed.

As for trapping with yellow being to short, that should be illegal and you should complain to your court if that happens. Here, there are prescribed yellow phases depending on the allowed speed (i.e. a 70 road has longer yellow than 50) that allows to react humanly.

[littlehelper]

+1 for the proposal to show a max speed sign and a traffic light sign on the screen.
For me the max speed shown in the widget is too small and therefore difficult to see while driving.

[532910]

Speedcam limit is also should be announced.