Text loader v.s in-memory data structure in API reference samples #2726
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I chatted with Wei-Sheng offline about this. I can summarize the cons and pros as follows:
Wei-Sheng has strong preference for adopting in-memory data for our samples. I'm ambivalent. @rogancarr @sfilipi what do you think? |
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I will add that one of the ways I pitch ML.NET to customers is that it allows you to put models directly into memory right next to your existing business logic/rules engines (Web APIs, ASP.NET MVC/Web Forms, Win Forms etc.). I realize this suggestion was for trainers and not inference, but once I amplify to developers (keep in mind they are not data scientists) you don't need to load new data and you probably already have it in-memory/in-process already it's one of the things I had to explain more than once. |
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@bartczernicki, Thanks a lot for your input. Looks like in-memory scenario is more closer to C# developers, right? |
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Let's do both kinds of examples, but I think we should define what kinds of samples that we're building.
var data = LoadHousingRegressionDataset(mlContext);so that we don't bog down the documentation on how a learner works and what produces with tons of lines describing data loading. I am hesitant to have these focus on more than just the API in question.
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@rogancarr, the GAM example has too many thing not directly related to the trainer. Moving things into a function doesn't really increase the flexibility. Assume that I already have a data matrix and label vector like those in many scikit-learn trainer examples: X = [[0], [1], [2], [3]]
Y = [0, 1, 2, 3]What is the gap between GAM example and the training pipeline I want? I'd imagine I need to
var data = LoadHousingRegressionDataset(mlContext);If I were smart enough, I will clone ML.NET, open Visual Studio, search for the definition of /// <summary>
/// Example with one binary label and 10 feature values.
/// </summary>
public class BinaryLabelFloatFeatureVectorSample
{
public bool Label;
[VectorType(_simpleBinaryClassSampleFeatureLength)] // _simpleBinaryClassSampleFeatureLength = 10, for example.
public float[] Features;
}Oh wait, how should I know I need to define my own class? Why should I have Visual Studio? Note that finding an example class with a vector field (i.e.,
Those points mentioned above might explain why scikit-learn trainer examples always do things as simple as X = [[0], [1], [2], [3]]
Y = [0, 1, 2, 3]
clf = svm.SVC(gamma='scale', decision_function_shape='ovo')
clf.fit(X, Y)We have many |
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Without interfering too much in matters of samples and documentation, my own sympathies at least at first glance are strongly with @wschin. As @bartczernicki points out, it is inevitable even from the first example that you need to introduce the subject of in memory consumption anyway, since that is the most plausible way the trained models will be consumed. When doing predictions, you're not going to be consuming from a file. So, you need to have that. Now Beyond that core and necessary part, I think about what I have to explain. I think about what I have to explain in @wschin's world: I can say, "hey look, here's an array of length 150 of Otherwise we inevitably have to get into conversations about in-memory vs. out-of-memory structures, the implications of lazily-evaluated structures like (I might at least mention in @wschin 's world that this is a simple example and we have other mechanisms for handling out-of-core data -- imagining myself as an outside reader, I would get suspicious myself if I did not receive some assurance on this point --, but I wouldn't hit people over the head with the details of how that is done right off the bat.) Again, not trying to interfere in matters of documentation and samples. Just registering my own thoughts on this subject, feel free to ignore. |
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I would prefer following way: My reasoning is following: If I get to the learner I probably already build some pipeline for my data. So I would prefer to show user how to specify certain options and what columns learner produce, how to make prediction, how to get metrics out of it. Basically focus on learner rather than pipeline building. Data transformation: I think it's necessary to have in memory examples since we transform data. So we should show before and after stages. Which is hard with data reading.At least in cases where we work with data itself rather than schema of data, for data schema I would prefer lesser footprint Maybe bad, but still example: @JRAlexander has probably thousand times more expertise than we are, so can be nice to add him to this discussion. |
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A trainer is definitely not a thing should start with |
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Thanks @wschin for bring this up. I think this is the matter of showing ML.NET's preferred way of importing data into pipeline. Either it is using C# structure (in-memory) or from file (using text loader). If all of our samples contain the in-memory streaming then our message to user is that Scikit example here does not make much sense because scikit does not provide data loading support (use numpy). So, for them data loading is not concern at all. If we are going to be in the same boat then there is no-doubt about using in-memory streaming. There is also a question of how many samples will be sufficient for the training of the transform or learner. If all of learners and trainers can be trained on just 5-10 examples then it is perfect otherwise creation of data will fill up the sample. |
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C# API suppose to primarily work with C# data structures, not files! Scikit-learn example is an example for trainers, why it needs to load data? Training is just training; loading is just loading. Why do we need to mix them in a training API's example? |
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@wschin I'm not sure if this thread will converge because there are multiple trade-offs at play: 1) user experience, 2) size of the sample code, 3) self-containedness of sample code (removing SampleUtils), 4) data size (many of our trainers' defaults are tuned for large data. If we use small data we have to change those parameters, which could give the impression to the users that they have to specify all parameters, as opposed to just use defaults as starting point). My suggestion is that you write up your ideal sample code for one trainer. Then the team can review the proposal. Having actual code would be simpler. We can repeat the same for transforms. |
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Here is one ideal example in my mind (mentioned in the first post of this thread) for (1) Full version. From training to prediction with detailed comments. public static class RandomizedPcaSample
{
public static void Example()
{
// Create a new context for ML.NET operations. It can be used for exception tracking and logging,
// as a catalog of available operations and as the source of randomness.
// Setting the seed to a fixed number in this example to make outputs deterministic.
var mlContext = new MLContext(seed: 0);
// Training data.
var samples = new List<DataPoint>()
{
new DataPoint(){ Features= new float[3] {1, 0, 0} },
new DataPoint(){ Features= new float[3] {0, 2, 1} },
new DataPoint(){ Features= new float[3] {1, 2, 3} },
new DataPoint(){ Features= new float[3] {0, 1, 0} },
new DataPoint(){ Features= new float[3] {0, 2, 1} },
new DataPoint(){ Features= new float[3] {-100, 50, -100} }
};
// Convert the List<DataPoint> to IDataView, a consumble format to ML.NET functions.
var data = mlContext.Data.LoadFromEnumerable(samples);
// Create an anomaly detector. Its underlying algorithm is randomized PCA.
var pipeline = mlContext.AnomalyDetection.Trainers.RandomizedPca(featureColumnName: nameof(DataPoint.Features), rank: 1, center: false);
// Train the anomaly detector.
var model = pipeline.Fit(data);
// Apply the trained model on the training data.
var transformed = model.Transform(data);
// Read ML.NET predictions into IEnumerable<Result>.
var results = mlContext.Data.CreateEnumerable<Result>(transformed, reuseRowObject: false).ToList();
// Let's go through all predictions.
// Lines printed out should be
// The 0 - th example with features[1, 0, 0] is an inlier with a score of being inlier 0.7453707
// The 1 - th example with features[0, 2, 1] is an inlier with a score of being inlier 0.9999999
// The 2 - th example with features[1, 2, 3] is an inlier with a score of being inlier 0.8450122
// The 3 - th example with features[0, 1, 0] is an inlier with a score of being inlier 0.9428905
// The 4 - th example with features[0, 2, 1] is an inlier with a score of being inlier 0.9999999
// The 5 - th example with features[-100, 50, -100] is an outlier with a score of being inlier 0
for (int i = 0; i < samples.Count; ++i)
{
// The i-th example's prediction result.
var result = results[i];
// The i-th example's feature vector in text format.
var featuresInText = string.Join(',', samples[i].Features);
if (result.PredictedLabel)
// The i-th sample is predicted as an inlier.
Console.WriteLine("The {0}-th example with features [{1}] is an inlier with a score of being inlier {2}",
i, featuresInText, result.Score);
else
// The i-th sample is predicted as an outlier.
Console.WriteLine("The {0}-th example with features [{1}] is an outlier with a score of being inlier {2}",
i, featuresInText, result.Score);
}
}
// Example with 3 feature values. A training data set is a collection of such examples.
private class DataPoint
{
[VectorType(3)]
public float[] Features { get; set; }
}
// Class used to capture prediction of DataPoint.
private class Result
{
// Outlier gets false while inlier has true.
public bool PredictedLabel { get; set; }
// Outlier gets smaller score.
public float Score { get; set; }
}
}(2) Short version. public static class RandomizedPcaSample
{
public static void Example()
{
var mlContext = new MLContext(seed: 0);
// Define training set.
var samples = new List<DataPoint>()
{
new DataPoint(){ Features= new float[3] {1, 0, 0} },
new DataPoint(){ Features= new float[3] {0, 2, 1} },
new DataPoint(){ Features= new float[3] {1, 2, 3} },
new DataPoint(){ Features= new float[3] {0, 1, 0} },
new DataPoint(){ Features= new float[3] {0, 2, 1} },
new DataPoint(){ Features= new float[3] {-100, 50, -100} }
};
// Convert training data to IDataView, the general data type used in ML.NET.
var data = mlContext.Data.LoadFromEnumerable(samples);
// Define trainer.
var pipeline = mlContext.AnomalyDetection.Trainers.RandomizedPca(featureColumnName: nameof(DataPoint.Features), rank: 1, center: false);
// Train the model.
var model = pipeline.Fit(data);
}
private class DataPoint
{
[VectorType(3)]
public float[] Features { get; set; }
}
} |
wschin
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My main concern is not whether we use in-memory or file-based data loading in samples. My main concern is what the format for samples in this repository are. Here are my beliefs:
@wschin, as you point out, a lot of these samples, like GAMs and FCC, are way too verbose and don't fit this scheme. These docs are a work in progress and are currently being refactored. I believe the solution is to move the verbose examples into the Samples repository and make the samples in this project smaller and more succinct. So what I object to here is to adding tons of boilerplate code to the https://docs.microsoft.com pages. In terms of your samples, maybe what we want is this: public static class RandomizedPca
{
public static void Example()
{
// Create a new context for ML.NET operations. It can be used for exception tracking and logging,
// as a catalog of available operations and as the source of randomness.
// Setting the seed to a fixed number in this example to make outputs deterministic.
var mlContext = new MLContext(seed: 0);
// Convert the List<DataPoint> to IDataView, a consumble format to ML.NET functions.
var data = SampleUtils.LoadFakeData();
// Create an anomaly detector. Its underlying algorithm is randomized PCA.
var pipeline = mlContext.AnomalyDetection.Trainers.RandomizedPca(featureColumnName: nameof(DataPoint.Features), rank: 1, center: false);
// Train the anomaly detector.
var model = pipeline.Fit(data);
// Apply the trained model on the training data.
var transformed = model.Transform(data);
// Read ML.NET predictions into IEnumerable<Result>.
var results = mlContext.Data.CreateEnumerable<Result>(transformed, reuseRowObject: false).ToList();
// Let's go through all predictions.
for (int i = 0; i < samples.Count; ++i)
{
// The i-th example's prediction result.
var result = results[i];
// The i-th example's feature vector in text format.
var featuresInText = string.Join(',', samples[i].Features);
if (result.PredictedLabel)
// The i-th sample is predicted as an inlier.
Console.WriteLine("The {0}-th example with features [{1}] is an inlier with a score of being inlier {2}",
i, featuresInText, result.Score);
else
// The i-th sample is predicted as an outlier.
Console.WriteLine("The {0}-th example with features [{1}] is an outlier with a score of being inlier {2}",
i, featuresInText, result.Score);
}
// Expected output:
// The 0 - th example with features[1, 0, 0] is an inlier with a score of being inlier 0.7453707
// The 1 - th example with features[0, 2, 1] is an inlier with a score of being inlier 0.9999999
// The 2 - th example with features[1, 2, 3] is an inlier with a score of being inlier 0.8450122
// The 3 - th example with features[0, 1, 0] is an inlier with a score of being inlier 0.9428905
// The 4 - th example with features[0, 2, 1] is an inlier with a score of being inlier 0.9999999
// The 5 - th example with features[-100, 50, -100] is an outlier with a score of being inlier 0
}
}I might be off-base here though on what we want in the various repositories and on the docs pages. I'd like to hear from @CESARDELATORRE, @JRAlexander, and @eerhardt about their expectations for the documentation vs. samples. |
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@rogancarr, we can't hide the definition of private class DataPoint
{
[VectorType(3)]
public float[] Features { get; set; }
}to private class DataPoint
{
[VectorType(10)]
public float[] Features { get; set; }
}This was a problem bothering my for hours. I don't want users go through this again. |
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Someone coming in from the outside of this project, I have used 4 primary resources to learn: I agreee with @rogancarr about keeping doc samples succint. Something like this would be nice:
I do agree with @wschin some of the examples/samples seem to skip pretty important caveats and without getting into the weeds of the API (which should never happen) it's hard to tell what is happening. For example, why can't some models be saved as ONNX/why can't some models return weights/why can't some models do PFI/why is a simple ML 101 construct like a ConfusionMatrix seemingly gone (previous API had it)/why do some algorithms not have probabilities. I get that you don't want to have basic examples with scary long Interface casts since this is meant to be a fluent API, but somethings (as someone who does AI daily) shouldn't be this hard to do. |
Sounds good to me but we also need a precise definition of
I could imagine those tasks requiring users to use Visual Studio to do some experiments and exploration, so ML.NET becomes super windows-friendly and Linux users will have different experiences than Windows users. Is this gap a cross-platform machine learning library really wants? Fortunately, training a binary classifier has been standardized in textbooks, on wiki, and so on --- it's just a function for finding map from a real-valued feature vector to a binary label. What's the closest thing of feature vector in C# that every C# developer is familiar with? It's a public static class BinaryClassificationSample
{
public static void Example()
{
var mlContext = new MLContext(seed: 0);
// Define training set.
var samples = new List<DataPoint>()
{
new DataPoint(){ Label = 0, Features = new float[3] {1, 1, 0} },
new DataPoint(){ Label = 0, Features = new float[3] {0, 2, 1} },
new DataPoint(){ Label = 1, Features = new float[3] {-1, -2, -3} },
};
// Convert training data to IDataView, the general data type used in ML.NET.
var data = mlContext.Data.LoadFromEnumerable(samples);
// Define trainer.
var pipeline = mlContext.BinaryClassification.Trainers.FastTree(featureColumnName: nameof(DataPoint.Features));
// Train the model.
var model = pipeline.Fit(data);
}
private class DataPoint
{
bool Label { get; set; }
[VectorType(3)]
public float[] Features { get; set; }
}
}This way we align the concept everyone learn in school with its C# implementation. It's platform-natural, self-contained, and general-enough to be extended to other cases.
ONNX thing is not standardized and you can't find it in textbooks, I guess we may not have a detailed example for it. Yes, I don't think we can explain everything. To avoid explaining everything happening, the start and end of an API example should be something we don't need to explain so we can focus on the targeted API itself. The thing I want to have is, for training APIs, private class DataPoint
{
bool Label { get; set; }
[VectorType(3)]
public float[] Features { get; set; }
} |
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Or you could make some of these examples into how-tos in the ML.NET Guide on Docs like we did with PFI (they are rendered as part of the build process): |
shmoradims
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@JRAlexander, we are deciding what template of API (neither scenario example nor machine learning tutorial) example should look like. For example, this is the trainer API of gradient boosting decision tree to binary classification: public static FastTreeBinaryClassificationTrainer FastTree(this BinaryClassificationCatalog.BinaryClassificationTrainers catalog,
string labelColumnName = DefaultColumnNames.Label,
string featureColumnName = DefaultColumnNames.Features,
string exampleWeightColumnName = null,
int numberOfLeaves = Defaults.NumberOfLeaves,
int numberOfTrees = Defaults.NumberOfTrees,
int minimumExampleCountPerLeaf = Defaults.MinimumExampleCountPerLeaf,
double learningRate = Defaults.LearningRate)
{
Contracts.CheckValue(catalog, nameof(catalog));
var env = CatalogUtils.GetEnvironment(catalog);
return new FastTreeBinaryClassificationTrainer(env, labelColumnName, featureColumnName, exampleWeightColumnName, numberOfLeaves, numberOfTrees, minimumExampleCountPerLeaf, learningRate);
}What should its example look like? A core goal of ML.NET is democratizing machine learning. Do we want a user only knows
starting doing binary classification immediately after seeing the API document of public static class BinaryClassificationSample
{
public static void Example()
{
var mlContext = new MLContext(seed: 0);
// Define training set.
var samples = new List<DataPoint>()
{
new DataPoint(){ Label = 0, Features = new float[3] {1, 1, 0} },
new DataPoint(){ Label = 0, Features = new float[3] {0, 2, 1} },
new DataPoint(){ Label = 1, Features = new float[3] {-1, -2, -3} },
};
// Convert training data to IDataView, the general data type used in ML.NET.
var data = mlContext.Data.LoadFromEnumerable(samples);
// Define trainer.
var pipeline = mlContext.BinaryClassification.Trainers.FastTree(featureColumnName: nameof(DataPoint.Features));
// Train the model.
var model = pipeline.Fit(data);
}
private class DataPoint
{
bool Label { get; set; }
[VectorType(3)]
public float[] Features { get; set; }
}
} |
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I summarized our design space below:
We should decide both for trainers and transforms. Our current trainer samples are hide-boilerplate, text-loader, verbose. Wei-Sheng is suggesting self-contained, in-memory, (any). Let's finalize this over a meeting. |
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It will be easier to make decision if we have an agreement on the targeted audiences. Here are my assupations about our major (and potential) users of C# APIs.
In addition to the targeted users, we also need to determine what they can do after reading an the documentation of a binary classification trainer (decision made can be extended to other trainers). Notice that we're talking about API documents, not neither scenario examples nor tutorials. Personally, I think
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I believe examples should be self contained but use real text loader and be verbose so folks learn how to evaluate the quality of the model etc in the same example without having to refer to other docs. This helps demonstrate real usage with best practices instead of just explaining how to use a specific API |
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self-contained + using text loader means --- the user need to learn I can also honestly tell you --- if you search for ML.NET examples in Chinese (why Chinese? It just filters out all our documents so we can focus on what users are doing), you will see they all copy-and-paste our entire examples, which means our examples are hard to be understood, adjusted and generalized. One of them even asked Furthermore, @clauren42, two things we often do is to ask C# developer to learn machine learning through a single example and expect that they will be able to make their own pipelines. Two implicit assumptions here are
These two assumptions don't look super true to me and confirmed by users (see this, this, this). Btw, self-contained is something I like the most. |
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Most ml examples I've seen use some sort of helper function to load data (taxi fare, breast cancer, etc) rather than construct data in memory. Scikit-learn and TF obviously could take the same approach using python, but they don't. Being able to look at the data file is pretty helpful for people to understand what's going on...but if were talking about API level samples maybe in memory is fine. For getting started / how to content I think most samples should use train and test data sets vs in memory construction of data. |
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@clauren42, yes, we are talking about API documents, not tutorials, demos, or samples. In-memory is not just In addition, the definition of I am glab that you mentioned |
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For API level doc's I agree in memory should be fine, perhaps even preferable.
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In addition, the definition of helpful is not quite clear to me. It's good in terms of showing off our ability of doing data science, but I doubt if it's what C# developers really need when they just want to call a single function (developers always need to work with scientists. Why do they need to learn feature engineering?).
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We've adopted in-memory and self-contained style for API reference samples, whenever possible. Closing this discussion issue. |
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We often starts our trainer examples with text loader but recently I feel loading text into
IDataViewis not directly related to the actual training procedure. If we useas our in-memory example, we can create more flexible examples like scikit-learn ones (where data matrix is float matrix) and make ML.NET's learning curve smoother (because users don't need to learn text loader, the loaded data, and trainer at the same time).
cc @shmoradims, @rogancarr, @sfilipi, @shauheen
#2780 shows a scikit-learn-style example for ML.NET. It is
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