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I will loop back to refine this. For now, here's a copy/paste from the relevant discussion thread in Zulip:
I've already reviewed the code of several recipe modules, and although I understand the value they provide as they are currently, I also already see their limitations and things that are against what the initial plan for recipes was (no-code, or very minimal code - definitely no php or js). What I would like recipes to be is "code-less scripts" or natural-language (sorta) "instructions". I started creating a custom module called master_chef 😅 ...which would be the equivalent of what the Drupal recipe runner is. I quickly realized though that I would need hooks that are not currently available in Backdrop core. That means that I would have to file several issues in the core queue for feature requests, which would scatter pieces of my puzzle all over the place + I would then be blocked from making any progress until these things were implemented. What I think I will do is I will create a meta-issue in core (this one here 😉), which will allow me to provide a PoC PR with a very minimal implementation.
I would like Backdrop recipes to be as simple as these ...even simpler than that if possible! I would like anyone that can read through a how-to article or watch a tutorial video to be able to convert it to machine-readable, yet plain-language (as much as possible) instructions set with very minimal effort, and no code (almost no code - writing a .json or .info file is still "code"). I want recipes to resemble as much as possible an actual food recipe, and have its simplicity:
start with a name for the "dish"
add a section of required "ingredients" (dependencies on modules/themes/templates, which the project installer can pull and install)
provide the actual recipe instructions (steps outlined in the .info file ideally, which will be followed/executed sequentially)
sprinkle some "seasoning" if required (things like CSS - possibly via modules like css_injector, which will have already been added as one of the "ingredients" in step 2)
Some relevant core issues (for now, this includes issues mentioned in #5240, as there's naturally a lot of overlap):
With the fix of #3224, we are moving closer towards developing the preconditions for "recipes" to become a more useful tool in Backdrop.
This is intended as a META issue to track other issues that are blocking the progress of "recipes" and/or are directly related to the advancement of "recipes."
This is a follow-up of #5240.
I will loop back to refine this. For now, here's a copy/paste from the relevant discussion thread in Zulip:
I've already reviewed the code of several recipe modules, and although I understand the value they provide as they are currently, I also already see their limitations and things that are against what the initial plan for recipes was (no-code, or very minimal code - definitely no php or js). What I would like recipes to be is "code-less scripts" or natural-language (sorta) "instructions". I started creating a custom module called master_chef 😅 ...which would be the equivalent of what the Drupal recipe runner is. I quickly realized though that I would need hooks that are not currently available in Backdrop core. That means that I would have to file several issues in the core queue for feature requests, which would scatter pieces of my puzzle all over the place + I would then be blocked from making any progress until these things were implemented. What I think I will do is I will create a meta-issue in core (this one here 😉), which will allow me to provide a PoC PR with a very minimal implementation.
To get an idea of what recipes look like in Drupal, have a look here for some examples: https://git.drupalcode.org/project/drupal/-/blob/11.x/core/recipes
I would like Backdrop recipes to be as simple as these ...even simpler than that if possible! I would like anyone that can read through a how-to article or watch a tutorial video to be able to convert it to machine-readable, yet plain-language (as much as possible) instructions set with very minimal effort, and no code (almost no code - writing a .json or .info file is still "code"). I want recipes to resemble as much as possible an actual food recipe, and have its simplicity:
Some relevant core issues (for now, this includes issues mentioned in #5240, as there's naturally a lot of overlap):
With the fix of #3224, we are moving closer towards developing the preconditions for "recipes" to become a more useful tool in Backdrop.
See:
This is intended as a META issue to track other issues that are blocking the progress of "recipes" and/or are directly related to the advancement of "recipes."
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